tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post2968876136264624224..comments2024-01-08T13:20:56.857-05:00Comments on Culture kills... wait, I mean cutlery: The Spoiler Social ContractMChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16984793682474594967noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post-48838685893459966082010-06-08T16:51:04.896-04:002010-06-08T16:51:04.896-04:00I agree, the internet is good for democracy as it ...I agree, the internet is good for democracy as it provides a little bit greater transparency to some aspects of government.MChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16984793682474594967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post-67665990548788509982010-06-06T15:46:38.791-04:002010-06-06T15:46:38.791-04:00Wait -- correction. It's not an interview, but...Wait -- correction. It's not an interview, but a debate that Wales is participating in. The debate is over whether or not the Internet is a threat to democracy. I'm totally on the "hell, no" side.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04854543617806427302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post-55026147072563421412010-06-06T10:33:11.463-04:002010-06-06T10:33:11.463-04:00This interview of Jimmy Wales expresses something ...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1vD5EHeAFM" rel="nofollow">This interview</a> of Jimmy Wales expresses something similar to what you've written. One speaker even uses the term "social contract" in reference to Internet discourse.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04854543617806427302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post-79085962419502713662010-06-04T10:08:43.902-04:002010-06-04T10:08:43.902-04:00I'm on a newsgroup with people from all over t...I'm on a newsgroup with people from all over the world and this issue comes up with some regularity, especially for television shows. It can be months before a show in one country airs in another country. People there generally give a week or so before they stop warning about spoilers, unless they know there is an inter-country delay, and then the warnings can go on for quite a while.<br /><br />Of course there are always times when someone blurts something out without warning, but they get hammered in the group. <br /><br />There are also arguments about what constitutes a spoiler. That gets to be an interesting conversation, as many people have different takes on where that line is.Jeffhttp://www.caddicks.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post-82904215747251921322010-06-04T01:02:53.635-04:002010-06-04T01:02:53.635-04:00Just step away from the computer until after you&#...Just step away from the computer until after you've watched it.<br /><br />:)Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387041422819664987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post-3917110191515690282010-06-03T23:57:24.332-04:002010-06-03T23:57:24.332-04:00John: Oh, I wouldn't expect everyone to comply...John: Oh, I wouldn't expect everyone to comply with that, and in fact, we both know that there are individuals, both named and anonymous, who would take such an arrangement and do everything in their power to run counter to the spirit and practice of it. But to me it just seems like good policy. I have no authority to force people to comply.<br /><br />But as you have said, there are clear consequences for breaking the tacitly developed social norms of this form of communication.<br /><br />I've run into sites that specifically cater to spoilers, and those are very much kosher in my book because they tell you by name alone that that is what they do. But I have also run into sites which relish spoiling narrative television, film and other forms of entertainment without warning and in an inconsistent manner, so you can never be sure if what you are reading is going to be a spoiler or not. Of course, many of the people who frequent sites like those are also not seemingly huge on social contracts as well.<br /><br />Lee: Seeing as you are in Australia, the East Coast vs West Coast thing has to be really amplified as well.MChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16984793682474594967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post-62667899906118554882010-06-03T23:49:25.602-04:002010-06-03T23:49:25.602-04:00i've unfollowed people on Twitter to avoid the...i've unfollowed people on Twitter to avoid their continued spoilers.<br /><br />I think in a public arena one can discuss a show or movie without specifically spoiling it. I don't do it and expect the same from others.Lee Sargenthttp://quityourdayjob.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27176467.post-43285319944842707162010-06-03T21:53:19.569-04:002010-06-03T21:53:19.569-04:00The problem is trying to get an environment as neb...The problem is trying to get an environment as nebulous and non-finite as the Internet to accept that social contract -- or any at all. With bloggers or commenters with an established presence and therefore an investment in maintaining some degree of social approval, there are real consequences to spoiling new media. With anonymous commenters, less so.<br /><br />Are there particular sites that you have found to be spoiler-heavy? I'm not asking for names. I'm just curious if they've faced a decline in popularity as a result of their anti-social behavior.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04854543617806427302noreply@blogger.com